When I was President, I got second guessed all the time, which was the right and which was the left. I don't think I should second guess the captain's picks. We'll just have to wait and see.
The real problem he's got is he's got so much young talent. And the problem you've got in all these things is do you want to take somebody that's young and fearless or do you want to take somebody who has been around the track and thinks about it.
The things about the Cup that's so interesting are the different kinds of matches are a whole different psychology. Just for example, Harrington, I said do you think that the way the European Golf Tour is helps the Europeans win the cup? He said, oh, yeah. It creates team spirit. I said, why? He said, well, for one thing, room service is not very good. So we all have to go out to dinner together.
I don't know. I think the first thing you've got to make is what categories he wants for his picks. But he's a really smart guy. I trust him.
Q. I wanted to ask whether ?? I don't want to get into politics ?? in light of that Obama?Boehner round of golf, did you have time in your presidency where you used the golf game to your advantage?
PRESIDENT CLINTON: Yeah, I like to play golf with members of Congress and with people I didn't know. So I had a lot of rounds to take people to go play golf. The thing that's important about that is I rarely discuss business on a golf course.
But I made a crack yesterday in Chicago or the day before and at the time people made fun of me. But Americans have gotten over all their prejudices. The country is much less racist, much less sexist than we used to be. We saw Chris Christie defending Mitt Romney about his Mormon faith, people have different views on gay marriage. Hardly anybody is prejudice against people because they're gay anymore.
The only thing we don't like now is we don't want to be around people we disagree with. Just think about it. There is a book - I recommend this book to you since you asked the question. The book called The Big Sort, written by a man named Bill Bishop who happens to be a democrat in Austin, Texas.
He was prompted to write this book because he was very good friends with a Republican who lived in his neighborhood, and Austin is the most Democratic city in Texas maybe San Antonio is a little more.
So he loved this guy because he had somebody that he could actually have honest arguments, and he liked his kids, they liked his kids, the whole thing. But he was the only guy apparently in the neighborhood who was nice to him. So the guy left the neighborhood.
The neighborhood in 2004, he wrote the book after that election, where John Kerry had cared his neighborhood 3?1. The guy moved to a neighborhood where George Bush beat John Kerry 4?1. And the argument, the guy said both our neighborhoods were poor. We were separating. So he started doing research. He found out there was a developer in the Inland Empire, not far from where we're going to have the course.
He had a huge plot of land, and he did a socioeconomic profile. He targets all upper income. It was a gated community. He found they were almost equally divided between Republicans and Democrats. I swear I didn't make this up.
So he builds one half of the streets for Republicans. They have basketball courts in the backyard, sidewalks, and one half for democrats. They've got a yoga room.
He sells 100% of the houses when they were built. Then he went back and did a review. 100% of the people that lived on this side of the street were Republicans. 100% that lived on that side were Democrats. It's a bad thing, I think, for our country, that we don't like to be around people who disagree with us.
Golf brings people together. Once you actually see somebody as a human being, it becomes impossible to disregard what they have to say, and you might learn something. I think it's really important.
Q. Mr. President, could you speak to your round with President Obama? Any nuggets about the round?
PRESIDENT CLINTON: We were going to play, and then we weren't going to play. Then he calls and says, oh, come on, let's play. So I got on a plane and went down and played.
And I was dead because it was right after the Clinton Global Initiative. He was pretty tired. He had been in New York at the U.N. But I had the U.N. and then I had a lot of those guys coming in, so I could barely stand up. I didn't play well. I shot like 92 or something, and the course was wet, and the ball wouldn't roll. But I had the best time. I had a really good time with him.
He didn't play very much. He started playing when he was a state senator. He plays more now. I think he had about the same score I did. He might have won by a shot or two. I just was terrible that day, but I had such a good time.
I was glad to see him get out and do it. There were times when I was President that I would go five holes before I hit a decent shot and before I could sort of flush my head. You can't play golf and do something else. It's a head game as much as anything else. If you're prepared to play and physically prepared, it's a head game.
So I liked seeing him on the golf course because he was totally at peace, relaxed. Went up and greeted everybody, shook hands with everybody that were standing around the course and everything. It was a very good day.
For a person who has only been playing seriously ?? he never really played serious golf until he became President. He picked it up pretty well. He hits an excellent shot.
Q. Getting back to modifying behavior and living a healthier life. Went to Rwanda with Sandy Thurman from your administration and your foundation is doing really good work. But with virtually no resources over there, they've made enormous strides because they've gotten everybody on the same page and they've gotten the message in. How do we do that? How do we get everybody on the same page?
PRESIDENT CLINTON: First of all, they had an incentive that we don't have. They practically destroyed each other. But it is an astonishing place. The President of Rwanda, Paul Kagame, who is a Tutsi, the majority or most of them are dying. He's raising those kids, all of the school children, be Rwandan first, and only secondary to be a member of a various tribe.
He started several years ago with a system that said all of the adults in Rwanda will take one Saturday a month and clean the streets, and they rotate it. He said we may be poor, but people associate being dirty with poor, and then they think we're inferior.